Talk:DoA 3-3

Why AoS instead of arcane echo? Isnt this build supposed to be beginner friendly? No matter how much AoS helps the Emo, arcane echo > aos for beginner friendly builds -artanis

+1, also AoS has always been useless, now it's even more so, emos don't tank anything anymore. --HasKha (talk) 22:11, 15 September 2019 (CEST)

+1 Monk is one of the roles you put somebody on whos a first timer and has no clue what to do, bringing aos and managing teaching him +2 other mesmers at the same time will not go well. the point of echo is so they arent as strict on seed timing and gives a huge buffer room for bigger spikes /weaker players/mistakes etc. . the emo also literally only tanks ele lord patrol in 3;3, which you have 3 mesmers there for (and maybe left side tendrills but since there are so many fiends there i like to have mt wall and fuse pull if possible). -ether

Of course AoS is not useless. It's also very easy to use - if you don't know how to use it, just spam it on the emo whenever, and that's already useful. If we're assuming the monk is totally new (that's fair), then he won't have a clue when to use AEcho, and unless you're micro-managing him, he'll either randomly use it when he should be doing something else or not at all.

I accept that that's all just based on my perspective. If someone else is forming 3-3 runs and they have the monk bring AEcho, feel free to list that as an alternative. I'd still like to see an explanation of when it's the better choice though. IMO a monk is almost always either too bad to use AEcho or too good to need it; there's a very narrow band in between where AoS is worse. I prefer it for absolute beginners, and it's pretty standard on the Mo/R bar now, so they might as well get used to it. The Mistyreous Mystery of Misty (talk) 20:59, 17 September 2019 (CEST)