Talk:Veil

derv note

"The Dervish Underlord is already spawned in before the quest is taken or the gate opens, but the groups on the hill won't spawn unless the gate is down (this can be proven by popping a stone inside the gate to derv hill, and by exploiting the way SoH works you can stance farther than compass distance away, having the stone run back towards the center of derv hill)."

This is incorrect. The 3 groups are pop-up groups, so the stone thing proves nothing (stones dont trigger popups). Still, the group closer to the gate will not spawn unless the gate is down, but the other 2 will spawn normally once a player triggers them. This is not relevant any more as you can't get in the hill unless the gate is open. --HasKha (talk) 19:03, 16 April 2018 (CEST)

btw i did all of left hill and just had middle hill last wave left and i spawned the close pop up on derv hill while runnnig near it when gate was up still. but i dont know if itwas the first group or the group past that on the side of the monk trench